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Options: Sa'dah conflict, Sa'dah insurgency, Insurgency in Sa'dah?

While there is little question that this conflict can be accurately classified as an "insurgency" (as the sources in the article demonstrate), I do not believe that Insurgency in Sa'dah is the optimal title for this article, for the reason that it does not clearly specify the scope of the article.

"Insurgency in Sa'dah" defines the article's scope as being inclusive of any insurgency, by any group, carried out in Sa'dah at any time in history. In other words, "Insurgency in Sa'dah" suggests that the article examines the topic of insurgency in the Sa'dah Governorate in general.

"Sa'dah conflict" and "Sa'dah insurgency", on the other hand, define the article's scope as being applicable to a single, specific case of conflict or insurgency. Black Falcon (Talk) 21:41, 30 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I may agree on Saadah insurgency after this explanation --TheFEARgod (Ч) 12:00, 1 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I've moved the article to Sa'dah insurgency. I have no real preference for either "Sa'dah" or "Saadah", but I renamed to the former so that it matches Sa'dah Governorate. Thanks, Black Falcon (Talk) 18:33, 18 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Classification as Jihad

Did Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani really describe the Yemeni government's operations as a "jihad"? This would be a compliment, which is unlikely given that the Iranian government are accused of supporting the insurgents. I have checked the reference on globalpolitician.com and its there... but does Jane Novak know what she is talking about? She uses the word "labelled" like the Ayatollah is dissing the Yemeni gorvernment but it makes no sense for a muslim to use the word jihad as a term of disrespect. - Yaris678 (talk) 21:28, 28 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hello there! I put myself exactly the same question when reading this text, I checked the source, as you did, and I arrived at the same conclusion.... makes no sense. Except if Ms Novak has shortened her sentence too much and wanted to say instead: "Ayatollah Sistani has labeled [the fight against] Mohsen's assault against Yemen's Shiites a jihad" (in brackets what I suppose missing words). In other words: Sistani would support the Al-Huthi insurgency as righteous and condemn Yemen's government. Much more plausible, even if Sistani normally abstains from polemic political opinions and has not even supported armed uprising against US-forces in Iraq. I think, if no other source is found, we should just delete this sentence.--Ilyacadiz (talk) 19:28, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I was unable to find any reference to this on his website www.sistani.org (I checked both the Arabic and English versions). It does sound very strange and the source cited provides no reference of its own to where this information came from. I suggest we remove this statement unless someone can provide a statement from Sistani himself (i.e. from one of his offices or websites) which would corroborate this. TheSophy (talk) 18:46, 20 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sunni-led?

The header of the article presents both belligerents and labels the 'Military of Yemen', as "Sunni-led" (as pitted against the Shabab al Muomineen, which are Shia-led) I object to that: the President of Yemen is himself a Zaidi (that's for sure: New York Times and if it's true what Novak says, that "Yemeni President Saleh’s nephews, relatives and tribesmen make up the leadership of Yemen ’s military and security forces", then they must be mostly Zaydi (i.e. Shii) also. Zaydis are a minority (30-40%) in Yemen, but that does not mean that the country is 'Sunni-led'. So we put Shia-led in both sides or else we drop the religious affiliation altogether. Opinions? --Ilyacadiz (talk) 20:02, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]